tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7613988174685562394.post5920858488561714303..comments2010-03-11T12:12:24.475-08:00Comments on Blackthorne Estates: Titles and Role Play in the Blackthorne Community (updated 3/18/08)Minh Ahnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10959676482676309126noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7613988174685562394.post-87986999245951768872008-03-15T11:56:00.000-07:002008-03-15T11:56:00.000-07:00Your Grace, my thanks to you for expanding on and ...Your Grace, my thanks to you for expanding on and further expalining your ideas and vision. As I said, these were random thoughts, and very hastily thrown together.<BR/><BR/>Just for laughs and giggles, I'll see if I can dig up some authentic fealty oaths. They got quite detailed in who owed what service to whom. If I can find some I will post them here.<BR/><BR/>Also, it would be great to see others post comments.<BR/><BR/>Your ob't, etc.<BR/>Baron Iosef MikoyanJoe Lovellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16892419601290744855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7613988174685562394.post-3076440610395984722008-03-15T09:18:00.000-07:002008-03-15T09:18:00.000-07:00Thanks Iosef, as you may know, I am less familiar ...Thanks Iosef, as you may know, I am less familiar with english feudal titles than you ( or probably most other Americans or Europeans). Also, this isn't based hard and fast on any particular system. My goal is to devise a system that people understand, but is unique to the needs of our community.Also, we are given limited number of roles/titles so titles that require male and female version are hard. The same problem is had with multiple titles for the same role (earl/count etc). Having said that, you make some GREAT points. Perhaps in the future, we can create a hover text title system that would allow greater flexibility.I have split the staff off from members group, so that will give me some flexibility too.<BR/><BR/>I do think Baron/Baroness is better for land owners. I will try to fit that in. I prefer nymph, primarily to lend a sense of style to the "secret garden" theme. You haven't seen it yet, but Nymph's are required to wear pixy, butterfly, and other "nymph" like outfits. Manager level staff will be expected to dress more formally. I thought about serf too. My main reason for going with property was that it meant exactly what I wanted. I am fine with both actually, anyone else have thoughts?<BR/><BR/>Keep these comments coming in! It really helps a lot.Minh Ahnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10959676482676309126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7613988174685562394.post-2886835884811959962008-03-14T09:14:00.000-07:002008-03-14T09:14:00.000-07:00May I respectfully suggest that rather than "Nymph...May I respectfully suggest that rather than "Nymph" "Page" would be more in keeping with the theme of a feudal class system. <BR/><BR/>And maybe revamp the titles. Style the various levels of managerial staff after the English peerage,from Duke down through Marquis, Earl, Viscount, and Baron. Although this may lead to problems as these titles usually had land holdings associated with them. Forms of address would be "Your Grace" or "Your Excellency." <BR/><BR/>This would then allow you to style the land owners as Lord/Lady, Baronet etc. As well as the more generic Gentry or Noble <BR/><BR/>Maybe kick "Baron" down from the peerage title to the land owners, since I think many of us associate a baronage with land ownership. Or, moreso than any of the other titles of the peerage. You could also put "Count" into the land owners possible titles (even though it is an alternate for Earl in the peerage), since once again we often associate a Count with land (think "county").<BR/><BR/>Also,substitute "serf" for "property." It amounts to the same thing.<BR/><BR/>Just a few random thoughts for consideration.<BR/><BR/>Your ob't, etc.<BR/><BR/>Baron Iosef MikoyanJoe Lovellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16892419601290744855noreply@blogger.com